Gnostic Doctrine

Saturday, 25 August 2018

When Did the Logos become flesh? John 1:14

When Did the Logos become flesh? John 1:14

The moment that Yahweh speaks something it happens, that's for sure. So the moment of the conception is the moment that the Word of the Father became flesh.

The Word became flesh" is here a straightforward reference to Christ's nature, not merely his birth (cp 1Jo 4:2). God manifested Himself in the flesh of humanity (1Ti 3:16), not in stone (Exo 34:6). Jesus was of David's seed (Rom 1:3); under a curse (Gal 3:13); being born of a woman, under the law (Gal 4:4); and made "sin" (2Co 5:21). He was of sinful flesh (Rom 8:3); in the likeness of men, in the a form of a slave (Phi 2:7); and like his brethren (Heb 2:17).

The Word became flesh which is the body prepared of God" (Heb. 10:5).

Prepared for what prepared for the indwelling of the spirit

John 3:34 For the one whom God sent forth speaks the sayings of God, for he does not give the spirit by measure

The word also became flesh when Jesus began to teach it. He said his words or logos was not his but God's.

John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my words [logos]: and the word [logos] which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's who sent me.

1 John 2:7 Beloved, no new commandment write I unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning: the old commandment is the word [logos] which ye heard.

So the word also became flesh at the baptism.

John 1:15 - "Concerning him, John gave this testimony: 'This is the one about whom I said, Though he is coming behind me, he preceded me and he came before me!"

John 1:14  And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.

John 1:14 is referring to the time when the human Jesus came to "dwell among" his disciples after John the baptizer announced his "coming" (John 1:15). These things happened "in the beginning" of the public ministry of "the word" (John 1:1).

The "and" in John 1:14 connects the clause that says "the word became [was] flesh" with the clause that says "dwelt among us." There is no reason to insert a 30-year gap between these two clauses. This is also confirmed by the writer in 1 John 1:1 where he said that "the word (LOGOS) of life" is what the disciples "heard" and "saw with their eyes" and "handled with their hands."

The disciples did not have this "fellowship" (1 John 1:3) with Jesus Christ, or hear the message he proclaimed (1 John 1:5), until the time when he "went in and out among them, beginning with the baptism of John" (Acts 1:21-22).

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