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Thursday, 1 November 2018

Should We Worship Mary the Mother of Jesus Gospel of Thomas saying 79

Should We Worship Mary Gospel of Thomas saying 79 




Gospel of Thomas saying 79 A woman in the crowd said to him, "Blessed are the womb that bore you and the breasts that nourished you!" He said to [her], "Blessed are those who have heard the father's utterance (or Word) and truly kept it! For days are coming when you (plur.) will say, 'Blessed are the womb that has not conceived and the breasts that have not given milk!

This saying in Thomas also found in the gospel of Luke would certainly have been a fine opportunity for Jesus to pay special honor to his mother if that had been appropriate. He did not do so.

Jesus deflects praise from his mother and himself toward those who are obedient to God. So we should not worship Jesus’ mother or give her honour for she was just flesh and blood like us and we should only honour and worship Yahweh our Elohim

382 Mary, the mother of Jesus, was unique, in that she gave birth to a son by a special miracle, without the intervention of the customary physical means. This of course does not mean that she was more than human, any more than that her son was more than human. She had as much need to pray to Allah as anyone else. The Christian dogma, in all sects except the Unitarian, holds that Jesus was God and the son of God. The worship of Mary became the practice in the Roman Catholic Church, which calls Mary the "Mother of God". This seems to have been endorsed by the Council of Ephesus in 431 A.C., in the century before Muhammad was born to sweep away the corruptions of the Church of Christ . 

The woman who says how Blessed Mary is to have given birth to Jesus is thinking carnally. She believes that Mary gave life to Jesus, but flesh gives birth to flesh. God could turn stones into men (and He basically did!). Again man was created, but spirit is born of spirit. So God gives birth to spirit. 

Saying 101) <Jesus said,> "Whoever does not hate his father and his mother as I do cannot become a disciple to Me. And whoever does [not] love his father and his mother as I do cannot become a [disciple] to Me. For My mother [gave me falsehood], but [My] true [Mother] gave me life."


For My birth mother [gave me death], but [My] true [Mother] gave me life." April deconick translation

Jesus birth mother could only give him death or falsehood which we understand to be sin in the flesh. but his true mother give him life. Sin, is an equivalent expression  for human nature.

Jesus goes on to tell this woman that the lucky ones are those who hear the Word of God and do what He says.

The last part of this Saying is a warning of disaster to come, when children will be much more a burden than a blessing, but whether Jesus is speaking about 70 CE or at the end of the present age is impossible to determine so I think it is both.


Jesus says that difficult times are coming for those thinking and living carnally.  God will break us like a Potter breaks and then refashions a pot. He will shape us into perfection, which is His image!


79) #A woman [a Jew who understood that the scriptures were pointing to Christ] from the crowd said to Him, "Blessed are the womb [Judaism (Gal 1:15)] which bore you and the breasts [the Old and New Testaments] which nourished You [He spoke forth both of these as the Word of God]." He said to her, "Blessed are those [the Elect] who have heard [the higher/inward (spiritual) meaning of] the word [in both Testaments] of the Father [Spirit-level as opposed to the mother which is of the flesh and blood level] and have truly kept it [obeyed and observed it as opposed to the Jews and the "Christo-pagans who do not]. #For there will be days [2,000 years (2 spiritual days) of Messianic age] when you will say, 'Blessed are the womb which has not conceived [true Judaism] and the breasts [of true Christianity] which have not given milk [both were subverted into "worldly" religions before they ever had a chance to bring forth adequate fruit to give birth to the spirit in anyone] .'" 



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